# Would this be possible to do? **URL:** \ **Category:** Support, Help & Resources\ **Created:** [November 20, 2024, 1:54pm UTC](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/t/would-this-be-possible-to-do/9316 "2024-11-20T13:54:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mauveinthemiddle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bc79bd/32.png) [@mauveinthemiddle](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/u/mauveinthemiddle)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 1:54pm UTC](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/t/would-this-be-possible-to-do/9316/1 "2024-11-20T13:54:19Z")
Hey! So if I load external samples into Sonic Pi, should I be able to send the audio of each individual sample out into a software (for example Ableton), where I could add effects to it? I don’t mean sending the audio of Sonic Pi as a whole (like a loopback), only the external samples individually. ---
**Author:** ![brendanmac](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/in-thread.sonic-pi.net/brendanmac/32/2809_2.png) [@brendanmac](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/u/brendanmac)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 2:47pm UTC](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/t/would-this-be-possible-to-do/9316/2 "2024-11-20T14:47:45Z")
Hi this topic has come up before, if you search here for “ableton”; for example: > [@Transferring live\_loops from Sonic Pi to Ableton for mixing, mastering and releasing songs](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/t/transferring-live-loops-from-sonic-pi-to-ableton-for-mixing-mastering-and-releasing-songs/9007): > > Hey everyone, hope you’ve been well! I’m working on releasing music, I primarily use Sonic Pi to produce and perform music with my vocals running through it, and now I’m in the process of transferring these songs to Ableton so I can arrange, mix and master each track. In the past I have recorded the whole song in Sonic Pi and then have done a quick overall mix and master, but this time I would like some more fine tuning abilities which requires recording each live\_loop/live\_audio separately. I … PD-Pi ---
**Author:** ![mauveinthemiddle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bc79bd/32.png) [@mauveinthemiddle](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/u/mauveinthemiddle)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 5:18pm UTC](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/t/would-this-be-possible-to-do/9316/3 "2024-11-20T17:18:42Z")
Thank you, but I forgot to mention that I’d like to do this in real-time for a live performance: triggering the samples individually, and adding effects to their audio separately through Ableton. It might not be possible this way, but I’m hopeful. ---
**Author:** ![Davids-Music-Lab](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/in-thread.sonic-pi.net/davids-music-lab/32/512_2.png) [@Davids-Music-Lab](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/u/Davids-Music-Lab)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 7:55pm UTC](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/t/would-this-be-possible-to-do/9316/4 "2024-11-20T19:55:40Z")
The :sound\_out effect lets you send audio to different channels, depending on your OS ---
**Author:** ![mauveinthemiddle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bc79bd/32.png) [@mauveinthemiddle](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/u/mauveinthemiddle)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 12:55pm UTC](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/t/would-this-be-possible-to-do/9316/5 "2024-11-25T12:55:37Z")
I’m trying to do this with VoiceMeeter, is it possible to send out different live\_loops audio to VoiceMeeter inputs? I’m using VoiceMeeter as a loopback of the desktop sound, so I can add effects to it in Ableton, but I want to separate different live\_loops audios, adding effects to them separately, controlling them separately. Would this be possible with the :sound\_out effect? ---
**Author:** ![R2L](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/in-thread.sonic-pi.net/r2l/32/2508_2.png) [@R2L](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/u/R2L)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2024, 9:10pm UTC](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/t/would-this-be-possible-to-do/9316/6 "2024-11-28T21:10:58Z")
What OS are you using? On Linux it’s super easy, on my Mac I use Soundflower but I think it only works on Intel Macs, on Windows I have no idea. ---
**Author:** ![mauveinthemiddle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bc79bd/32.png) [@mauveinthemiddle](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/u/mauveinthemiddle)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 11:47am UTC](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/t/would-this-be-possible-to-do/9316/7 "2024-12-01T11:47:20Z")
yeah it’s Windows 10 on my end, so I guess it’s not possible for me ☹ ---
**Author:** ![R2L](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/in-thread.sonic-pi.net/r2l/32/2508_2.png) [@R2L](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/u/R2L)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 4:18pm UTC](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/t/would-this-be-possible-to-do/9316/8 "2024-12-01T16:18:26Z")
Turns out Jack has Windows builds: [Downloads | JACK Audio Connection Kit](https://jackaudio.org/downloads/) I never used it on Windows but if it provides the same functionality it does on Linux then that’s what you need. ---
**Author:** ![mauveinthemiddle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bc79bd/32.png) [@mauveinthemiddle](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/u/mauveinthemiddle)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 10:28am UTC](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/t/would-this-be-possible-to-do/9316/9 "2024-12-02T10:28:50Z")
I’m trying to set it up, but I’m having a hard time with connecting things, could you please show me how you set it up for yourself? I just need to send the audio of external samples from Sonic Pi individually into individual channels inside Ableton, so I can add effects to them separately in real-time. Not for recording, it’s for a live performance. ---
**Author:** ![R2L](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/in-thread.sonic-pi.net/r2l/32/2508_2.png) [@R2L](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/u/R2L)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 5:59pm UTC](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/t/would-this-be-possible-to-do/9316/10 "2024-12-02T17:59:07Z")
This is what I see when Sonic Pi is open: ![Schermafdruk_2024-12-02_18-53-46]() That block named SuperCollider is where the sound you make in Sonic Pi comes from. Put a `:sound_out_stereo` effect around your live loop or whatever you need on a separate track. `:sound_out_stereo, output: 3` will make the sound come from outputs out\_3 and out\_4 from SuperCollider. If you make a stereo track in your DAW you should see a block for your DAW with two inputs for that track, drag connections from the SuperCollider outs to the ins for your tracks. ---
**Author:** ![mauveinthemiddle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bc79bd/32.png) [@mauveinthemiddle](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/u/mauveinthemiddle)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 9:16pm UTC](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/t/would-this-be-possible-to-do/9316/11 "2024-12-02T21:16:15Z")
for some reason it doesn’t show up for me, could you screenshot your advanced setup settings please? I don’t even know how you got firefox’s output going, my browser’s (chrome) audio is not showing up either, only ableton: ![Capture](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/uploads/sonic_pi/original/2X/6/6e8b9094e1f3714175889273338a0dc3d3debac5.png) ---
**Author:** ![R2L](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/in-thread.sonic-pi.net/r2l/32/2508_2.png) [@R2L](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/u/R2L)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 7:24am UTC](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/t/would-this-be-possible-to-do/9316/12 "2024-12-03T07:24:09Z")
Sorry, I’m on Linux where this all just works. Did you look in your system audio settings if there is a new “default” sound output you can pick that is called something like Jack low latency or something? I’m just guessing, I don’t have a Windows machine in the house and the last time I used one for anything audio related was 20 years ago (wow I’m old…). ---
**Author:** ![mauveinthemiddle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bc79bd/32.png) [@mauveinthemiddle](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/u/mauveinthemiddle)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 10:05am UTC](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/t/would-this-be-possible-to-do/9316/13 "2024-12-03T10:05:00Z")
I see, thank you anyways 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mauveinthemiddle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bc79bd/32.png) [@mauveinthemiddle](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/u/mauveinthemiddle)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2024, 10:14am UTC](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/t/would-this-be-possible-to-do/9316/14 "2024-12-04T10:14:18Z")
Hey, so I managed SuperCollider itself to work with Jack (first picture), which is cool, but I’d like to do the same thing with Sonic Pi. I tried to change the soundcard to JackRouter in the audio-settings.toml (second picture), but it’s not changing for some reason (third picture), even though the sample rate for example is changed after. Is it possible that Sonic Pi is not recognizing JackRouter, even though SuperCollider does? Or am I doing something wrong? ![Capture](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/uploads/sonic_pi/original/2X/7/7714f5747f94ff0f789b6592196625153ef8aa16.png) ![Capture2](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/uploads/sonic_pi/original/2X/6/6c761a0c224fbbe2318593b3deb6224f25e800f6.png) ![Capture3](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/uploads/sonic_pi/original/2X/7/732ea7c5c8fc08ddf8d24b96866a614219ed34a9.png) ---
**Author:** ![R2L](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/in-thread.sonic-pi.net/r2l/32/2508_2.png) [@R2L](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/u/R2L)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2024, 10:34am UTC](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/t/would-this-be-possible-to-do/9316/15 "2024-12-04T10:34:28Z")
So you have a stand alone SuperCollider running that works? Because Sonic Pi starts a SuperCollider instance that produces the sound, there won’t be Sonic Pi block showing up, just a SuperCollider one. I’m in a bit over my head now as I don’t know much about Windows, it could be that the Sonic Pi build for Windows is a bit different so I hope somebody else can chime in. Jack seems to be working fine so that’s good. ---
**Author:** ![mauveinthemiddle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bc79bd/32.png) [@mauveinthemiddle](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/u/mauveinthemiddle)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2024, 6:29pm UTC](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/t/would-this-be-possible-to-do/9316/16 "2024-12-04T18:29:56Z")
omg I made it work with Sonic Pi too, I just edited the audio-settings.toml in the wrong folder, now finally everything works like the way I imagined. thank you again for helping with this! 🙂