# Help with audio routing?

**URL:** <https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/t/help-with-audio-routing/4556>\
**Category:** Support, Help & Resources\
**Created:** [October 30, 2020, 9:59pm UTC](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/t/help-with-audio-routing/4556 "2020-10-30T21:59:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![samuel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@samuel](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/u/samuel)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 9:59pm UTC](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/t/help-with-audio-routing/4556/1 "2020-10-30T21:59:13Z")

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Specifically I am trying to, using Windows, route audio from Sonic Pi into separate channels in Ableton Live using the with\_fx: sound\_out, ouputs command.

I have a friend who, on Mac, is able to achieve this using the Pass-Thru function of Loopback to create a sort of virtual soundcard to be read by Logic, but I’ve been unable to find a working application for Windows… Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks

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**Author:** ![samaaron](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/in-thread.sonic-pi.net/samaaron/32/7_2.png) [@samaaron](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/u/samaaron)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 11:49pm UTC](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/t/help-with-audio-routing/4556/2 "2020-10-30T23:49:49Z")

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It may be possible to achieve this with some sort of virtual routing similar to the Loopback solution on macOS that you describe. However, this isn’t something I’m familiar with.

Another approach would be to use a sound card with multiple input/output channels. Use the `:sound_out` FX to output to the soundcard and then hard wire the out channel to an in channel which you could then access via Ableton.

I’d love to hear of other solutions though…

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**Author:** ![samaaron](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/in-thread.sonic-pi.net/samaaron/32/7_2.png) [@samaaron](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/u/samaaron)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 12:01am UTC](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/t/help-with-audio-routing/4556/3 "2020-10-31T00:01:15Z")

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This might also help:

> **[How to route audio between applications](https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/articles/360010526359-How-to-route-audio-between-applications)**
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> Live Versions: All
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> Operating System: All
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> There are three common methods for routing audio between Live and other software on your computer. Routing audio can be used for things like, for example,...

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**Author:** ![samuel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@samuel](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/u/samuel)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 12:04am UTC](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/t/help-with-audio-routing/4556/4 "2020-10-31T00:04:49Z")

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Awesome yeah an actual hardware alternative could actually be very cool, but would be interesting to get it to work virtually as well.

Thanks Sam, yeah I’ve had a read through that link and tried out both Voicemeeter and Jack Audio Connection but was unable to get them to function in the way I needed for this.

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**Author:** ![nlb](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/in-thread.sonic-pi.net/nlb/32/997_2.png) [@nlb](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/u/nlb)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 7:29am UTC](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/t/help-with-audio-routing/4556/5 "2020-10-31T07:29:44Z")

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Hi,

Maybe this post could help you. [How to use live\_audio with virtual audio device on Windows 10](https://in-thread.sonic-pi.net/t/how-to-use-live-audio-with-virtual-audio-device-on-windows-10/3440/9)